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Work Stress? Discover How Spiritual Practices Can Reboot Your Life and Work with Wendy Rose Williams

• Work Besties Who Podcast • Season 2 • Episode 32

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Join Jess & Claude in this transformative episode as they sit down with Wendy Rose Williams, a renowned past life energy healer, to uncover the fascinating world of past life regression and energy healing. Wendy shares her inspiring journey from a corporate career to helping others heal by exploring the profound connections between past lives and present-day challenges.

Together, Jess & Claude and Wendy dive into the significance of soulmates and soul contracts, practical grounding techniques, and energy-clearing practices that can transform your daily life. Learn how to navigate workplace dynamics with a fresh perspective, foster emotional well-being, and integrate simple yet powerful spiritual practices into your routine.

Whether you're curious about energy healing, seeking work-life balance, or eager to explore the mind-body connection, this conversation is packed with insights, laughter, and actionable tips for self-discovery and empowerment.

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Work Besties! Theme Song Written by Ralph Lentini @therallyband

Claude:

Hi, I'm Claude and I'm Jess. We are corporate employees by day, entrepreneurs by night and work besties for life.

Jess:

Join us as we explore how work besties lift each other up, laugh through the chaos and thrive together in every industry.

Claude:

Hi everybody, we are so excited for this podcast. Wendy is a past life energy healer and a certified spiritual teacher who helps people release the energy that is no longer serving them physical or emotional pain, but also anxiety, depression and stuck energy. Wendy, welcome to our podcast. We are so happy to have you. Please tell us a bit about you Certainly Well.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Thank you so much for having me as your guest. I really appreciate being here. So, as you said, I'm a past life energy healer and it's my great good fortune to have the fun and the privilege of helping people release that energy that doesn't serve them anymore, and often it is the pain, the anxiety, the depression, and boy can that show up. With our family, with our friends, with our coworkers, we can be just carrying energy that we don't realize and can really have a big impact. If you think of us like, like icebergs and just that, you know, that little tip of the triangle is what we're consciously aware of, up above the level of the water, and then the, the subconscious and the unconscious. In psychology terms, or the past life portion of the energy portions you know, in the soul terms, it's just really impacting and there's so much of it, and it can sure bubble up and sink our ship at times. Or or have us be just great cast mates together.

Claude:

And what really made you go into this field. I mean, if we can say field.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Field is a perfect term. It's an amazing, wonderful service business for me and a second career, so to speak. That just came out of personal interest. And Cloud, it ambushed me. I did not see it coming. And Cloud, it ambushed me, I did not see it coming. It came up in the most ridiculous way possible, which is I went on Matchcom to meet a wonderful new boyfriend back in 2010. And that's where it came up from, because he introduced me to Michael Newton's Journey of Souls, me to Michael Newton's Journey of Souls, and he introduced me, via that book and all the things that the Newton Institute was doing, to the concepts of past life regression and the incredible healing that could come up.

Wendy Rose Williams:

And again, explanations for what seemed inexplicable, because we've probably all had that, that deja vu. Maybe the two of you had it when you first met. And so you're, you're there and you're like, oh my gosh, there you are, I can't wait to catch up. And you're like finishing sentences and you're so excited. And then you're like, wait a minute, we met 10 seconds ago. I can't wait to catch up. And this incredible bond that is often there between soulmates, between soul family, which I simply see as people that we've known many times before. And it can be the opposite too. You can meet someone and you're like, ooh, I don't want to get too close, I don't want to shake hands, oh God, no, we're not having a hug and you're just like you're backing up because you're like there's this resistance and unfinished business, and just your intuition is like, wow, pay attention here. This looks like it's going to be hard, looks like I have something to clean up here.

Jess:

Wow, wendy, you just brought up so many fun topics for us to dive into the first one I want to talk though, about is. You mentioned how you can meet somebody and instantly feel that connection. Is there an explanation for that?

Wendy Rose Williams:

I believe that that deja vu can come up, and it's not only with people.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Sometimes it's with places or situation and it's like, oh my goodness, I really feel like I've known this person before or I've been to this place before, and it's like you don't even need a map and maybe you're not normally good at navigating, but you're like, well, wait a minute, I know where this is and I would call that a past life pilgrimage.

Wendy Rose Williams:

And they can really surprise us because you may not have known that you were going on one of them when you pick this place to go for a vacation or for a simple day trip or an outing, and it's just really really intriguing to me how this can come up and that there can be that energy from before. So I believe that that deja vu with people is because we are eternal souls. My belief is we choose to incarnate many times in many places and that we get to choose where and when that's going to be, as well as many of the major decisions in our life. Of course, we don't know how it's all going to play out and that's part of the game, but I believe you know when you recognize someone like that, so let's call them a soulmate, a member of our soul family.

Jess:

Yeah, I like that term soul family. It's probably like what we would call your soul work bestie.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Right right. I met a soulmate bestie in one of my jobs during the interview process and I just looked at her and I thought I cannot look away from her. I know her and she was instrumental in me taking the job and she became a mentor to me of sorts. And I later found her in my soul family during a past life, regression or a life between lives, when I was doing some sort of spiritual work like that with a hypnotherapist.

Jess:

What do you mean by you found her in your family?

Wendy Rose Williams:

Michael Newton wrote about it in Journey of Souls, based on a longitudinal study of 7,000 patients, so it was a pretty big study over his entire career of doing past life regressions and life between life sessions for people.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So, regardless of people's age, gender, beliefs, demographics, et cetera, when they go home during the spiritual regression, one of the major things that happens is a reunion with soul family, with these souls we've incarnated with many, many times. So this work Bestie, she came front and center when I had my near-death experience of this group of people that were welcoming me home and giving me this huge hug.

Wendy Rose Williams:

when I went up to the light during my near-death experience and there she was, and since then we've found multiple past lives together and it's been a very, very positive relationship.

Wendy Rose Williams:

But, as I said, the soulmate, the soul family, can have some intensity to it and it can have some challenges to it. Because wouldn't it make perfect sense that if you really wanted to learn with someone, you would choose someone that you have known many times, worked with many times on the other side, so to speak, as well as in different lifetimes, and let's say, for instance, you want to work on forgiveness. Well, you're going to need to create some situations that require the hard work of forgiveness, because maybe some things have felt pretty unforgivable to you. And again, wouldn't it make sense to choose and I believe we do that via soul contracts, just making agreements with people, and they can be uplifting too, because maybe I'm going to be your mentor at work, maybe I'm going to be your best friend at work or in other parts of life, perhaps a parent, a sibling, a neighbor, just someone important and influential in your life, so could you explain to us what is really the process of going into that past life regression, of going into that past life regression.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So I met her in 3D reality, in the physical flesh, 1998, during the job interview process, and then I met her via meditation and via spiritual regression where I raised my vibration and frequency and went up to the light and then had this reunion with family members and saw her there and recognized her there. So I believe what I see as the purpose of past life regression is to improve our life now, to enhance our life now, because often we have fears, we have phobias, we have baggage that we're just dragging around and we don't know how to heal it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

We've got anxiety, we have fear of dogs, we have fear of heights, we have fear of intimacy, we have fear of success. We just have so many things that are making us play it small, because when you're afraid of things like that, you're avoiding them. Public speaking public speaking is a huge one. That would be me. So those sorts of things. Often they come up via past life experiences, because my belief is that the soul, memory, is eternal. And but again it's, it's pushed down because there's this veil of amnesia, because you can't remember everything from every lifetime, the ultimate TMI. So that's the veil, that's the veil of amnesia, and the information is kept in our book of life, in the Akashic records, so that's where all that information is.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So just to be able to, in the past life, regression, to be able to let go of the things, that by visiting that past life and realizing here's why I have this fear of heights because I fell in a past life by falling. Well, isn't that, then, very rational and logical? You know, you can't figure it out in this lifetime. Why am I so uncomfortable? I cannot walk over this footbridge, have trouble going up escalators over that might be um, showing, showing up for you, so those sorts of things. And then when we find the lifetime of origin and understand what happened and that that was then and this is now, that is one of the most powerful statements that we can make. So when your hypnotherapist helps you see that and recognize that during your past life regression, it's like, well, of course, now I understand what happened, why it happened, and I can let it go and I no longer have this incredible fear of snakes, of spiders, whatever it might be.

Claude:

It's so funny because I have this fear of fire and trucks, right, and I always say in my past life I must have died in a truck accident and burst into flame. I guess trying to justify this fear.

Wendy Rose Williams:

That makes perfect sense and we've all died in pretty much every way imaginable, because most of us have incarnated hundreds, if not thousands, of times. Yes, there's the hallmark card version of death and then there's the more dramatic things the fall, the fire, the drowning, whatever it's been. But it's just so wonderful to help people release these things because they feel so much lighter and more balanced and more freed up. And past life regression. It's not the doom and gloom report. It's not just bringing up trauma. It's quite the opposite. It's releasing and healing and reframing what may have been traumatic.

Wendy Rose Williams:

But we also can do the opposite and we can specifically say show me a past life that would be helpful to my life now, because I really want to do this podcasting. Have I done any public speaking in the past? Or I really want to be a writer and I want to grow my skills in this area. Have I done it before? What were some of the lifetimes that might be helping that in a positive manner or that might be stopping me in that area? And you know, we can look. We look for the two ends of the continuum.

Jess:

When you bring up a good point, because one of the things that intrigued me about your background and as we talk about wellness and the opportunities within the Work Bestie community is the fact that sometimes Work besties bond because of trauma. There's something at work that's caused and therefore they instantly become connected. From your perspective and what you just commented on, it feels like it could be one of two things they're reacting because of something from a past life, or the opposite. They've never experienced something, but so they could be thinking about a way to overcome it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Yes, absolutely.

Jess:

Is there tips, tricks, recommendations, things that the Work Bestie community could be thinking about or trying to incorporate into their routines?

Wendy Rose Williams:

I think, yes, I think whatever we can do to ground and clear our energy every day and raise our vibration and frequency.

Wendy Rose Williams:

A daily spiritual practice, which might be meditation, it might be walking, it might be running, jogging, it might be yoga, it might be journaling, it might be chanting, drumming there's just so many different spiritual practices and the whole point is simply and you may not have even thought of it as that and the whole point is simply to just get yourself centered and grounded and get out of that left brain so we're not caught up in the left brain to contend, to worry things to death and you know we're not in our heart and we're not hearing our gut wisdom, we're not hearing our intuition, so being able to get really clear about those things, because let's see if I can come up with a work example Like, for instance, if you're in a big meeting and you're together and it, you know, kind of feels like a high stakes meeting, maybe it's a brainstorm and you're going to be sharing new ideas and you share an idea and nobody really seems to hear you and then someone else in the room says essentially the same idea and everyone's like yes, that's fantastic.

Jess:

Oh, that's when you're speaking to me right now.

Wendy Rose Williams:

All the time we might just be sitting there feeling crushed, can we can shut down instead of? You know, just keep running with it and just keep doing what you can do, and that's a great thing to reflect on. Do I have some issues around feeling heard?

Claude:

You know, do I?

Wendy Rose Williams:

have issues with my self-confidence Because it's going to happen from time to time. You know, if it's continually happening with the same person you know and you just don't feel heard and they seem to be, they present it and it can get into a male-female dynamic sometimes and the woman can feel like my gosh here. I just said that and presented that. Why did no one seem to hear me? And now this male coworker presented it and everyone's like, yes, that's the best. So all kinds of dynamics can come into it and people have different personality types.

Wendy Rose Williams:

You know Myers-Briggs still serves us well of what are those 16 main personality types and just kind of understanding, because some people are just very comfortable're processing and they're going to synthesize everything beautifully and put 12 things together into this one new idea, idea. And everyone turns and looks at them and goes wow, and they may never have shared it without being given the space and being really encouraged to do it. My youngest daughter is like that. She's now 26,. But I said to her all throughout childhood and teen years we really want to hear your voice in this family because you are the most creative problem solver. But she was very low communicator. She was someone that we kind of had to create that space.

Jess:

That's when you bring up a good point as a manager recommendations of ways to encourage those other individuals on your team, because you're right, there are some really wicked, smart individuals who just are not quite as willing to be the one in a big group dynamic and all they need is that little bit of encouragement. That's a great reminder.

Jess:

So, I wanted to ask a little bit more about how, when you meet people, sometimes you just have that again intuition or feeling. Is there any recommendations or things that you think are occurring out there that help you find the person you will connect with better? I bring this up because we get a lot of questions on. It's really hard to find that work bestie at your new job or the job that they're currently at, and knowing, discernment or intuition is a part of it. Maybe there's some other element you might not even be thinking of.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I think the more genuine and authentic and relaxed and true self that you can present, you're just going to be more likely to attract that work bestie or those friends in other social gatherings, cause if you're you know, if you're there like twisting and turning and like trying to please and trying to fit in, you're going to turn yourself into a jumbo pretzel, right? No one is going to know who the heck you are.

Claude:

And they might actually the other person might not find you because you're hiding behind a facade.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Right, right, right. I think it's part of the gift of middle age because, you know, we can just be painfully over self-conscious in our teens, in our 20s, maybe into our 30s and again, depending on the personality and the experiences that we've had. You know, there can just be some levelers in a good way, that just make a start, like I'm just going to keep it real and, you know, is everyone going to be my best friend?

Wendy Rose Williams:

No, and that's not what I want or need. There can be more meaningful connections for many people through having a couple. You know true ride or die friends, and you may not have them in every single workplace. When I look back over, I just recently relocated to East Spokane Valley, washington, from the Seattle area and I was in Seattle for 30 years and I had never lived anywhere that long and when I look now at the friends that I have from there cause I had the good fortune to make many friends over, you know that significant time period, but many of them were like one best friend from each workplace. You know so and just and and.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So now I've moved. I've moved five, six hours away. So it's great I can go back for a weekend and I can see four, six, eight of them all in one weekend. So I think the best way to attract them is to be to be genuine and to just be friendly and not take things too personally, because, oh my goodness, we can get so wounded over the slightest little thing at work. And you know there was no poor intent to it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

It's just people have very different communication styles or different personalities or different upbringing, or different roles at work or or different different agendas. Right, oh for sure.

Jess:

You know, personalities and agendas are definitely the one you have to recognize before reacting.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Right, exactly so. I think whatever you can do to just be, be the bigger person and just zip your lip, it's, it's just gossip, is not our friend and that is just not a way to make friends at work. But you know, many of us fall into that trap when we're, when you're younger, and we think that's a way to you know cause we're. We're like, oh, you know this person, oh they're terrible, and no, no, it just it doesn't serve us.

Jess:

I have another question for you Resolved workplace issues. Say, I have a conflict with my boss or a conflict with somebody on a cross-functional team I'm working with. How can I connect to a deeper energetic pattern to help overcome that?

Wendy Rose Williams:

I think, first of all, just when you're, when you're home and you're not in the thick of it, just to calmly journal it and just look at what piece of that do you own, or however, however, you process thoughts or maybe you talk it through with a really wise friend and again, it's, it's, you're not, it's not for the purpose of the attagirls, and you're great and they're terrible, that's not hopeful, yeah. But just to come up with some, you know new, you know new strategies of a different way to look at it and look at what you're bringing to the table, because you may be bringing being very easily offended. You know just being just as an example, being very, very thin skinned. You know just being just as an example, very, very thin skinned, you know, versus someone who just just as positive and just keeps on going and we're going to figure this out. And you know that sort of energy and and and and just having seeing if you can have a conversation with the person face to face, one on one, and say, hey, have a conversation with the person face to face, one-on-one and say, hey, I'd love to make this be smoother.

Wendy Rose Williams:

What do you need? Is there anything I can be doing differently in our interactions, because we've got this joint project together and I know everybody's feeling stressed. Is there anything I can be doing differently? What do you need from me and that question can surprise people because, you know, because we can get into this place where we're like kind of avoiding each other because we won't get along especially well, it's, it's hard to get the work done. So that if you can genuinely ask that question, that can, that can certainly help and just see what their see, what their response is and and do your darndest to you know darnedest to meet that request or that need. If they can verbalize something and they might need to ponder it or they might, right in the moment, it might improve the relationship and kind of soften it Right when you both can. You know, all boats rise with the tide, rise with the tide yep.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Start to be better teammates when it's with the boss, when it's with the direct report that's loaded, because of course, this is our boss who does our performance evaluation and determines so much of our future and determines our assignments and you know they've got a big impact.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Asking them the same question what do you need from me? And just just be willing to be vulnerable and call it out and say you know, sometimes our communication feels a little difficult. Could we do this? Could we try that? What do you need? How can I be more syncing up with what your objectives are? Can we get some clarity regarding your objectives? And if you've got a boss who occasionally we all have this experience who just they're struggling in their role and they're all over the map and they're having trouble planning and the priorities seem to change daily, it's just very chaotic and the priorities seem to change daily. It's just very chaotic. And hopefully they're going to get that straightened out or be moving on, because sometimes it's a strategy to outlast a boss who isn't really a fit. And I have been in positions that I really loved the company, loved my coworker, and a new direct boss came in and it was tough, you know, it just wasn't. It wasn't gelling.

Jess:

And occasionally you know you just outlast that boss. But you do bring up a good point that, yes, you can outlast the boss. But sometimes it is just having that vulnerable conversation. I think it's so quick for us to avoid and walk away and pretend To your point I probably will outlast this boss, so I don't have to deal with it. But it doesn't always solve the problem. But at least it will give you a sense of calmness afterwards because you have now tried and you're putting out that positive energy and trying to find a more active solution.

Jess:

Right, right, exactly.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Versus the avoid, ignore, blame judge.

Claude:

Manager can also learn from those conversations. Sometimes you're in the wind and you don't realize what you're projecting. Right so sometimes to have this conversation, say, oh, you're right.

Jess:

It's like a point, claude, because there's so many times that we're like go, go, go, and when you hit it on the head before, like change every day and you don't always have the time to sit and tell your team here's why it changed. So at least having them come to you and say I feel disjointed, it's always changing, I'm getting no direction, I have no line of sight and it's really causing my workload to suffer. That vulnerable conversation can shift your manager to be a little more pragmatic and take that step back and say you're right, let's regroup, let's talk about how we can be a little bit more cohesive and more authentic and communicating why we're doing what we're doing. Transparent, I think, is probably the best word.

Claude:

Going back to the past life and regression is like. At the end of the day, we all come with our past life baggages, right, and that, for me, it's. So you kind of try to understand the other person a bit better because of this Exactly. How do you? Also and I know it's about doing those more artistic, but to get rid of those baggages is so important.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Right, right, being as grounded and centered as we can, as I said, and just to keep focusing on what that team project is, what that mission is, and just know and have some sense of humor about there's going to be you know it's going to be all types of personalities and takes on it. It's like when you have the group of people who are blindfolded and they're all touching a different part of the elephant and it's really, really hard to get a picture of it. If you're touching this huge, smooth side of the elephant's like whoa, there's this wall here that goes on forever, versus the person that you know is touching the trunk of it, it's like whoa, there's this, there's this big, powerful, curvy thing going all over the place, or the person's got that, that funny little tail. You know that you're having such different experiences and and just we just have to respect that gary chapman who wrote the five love languages, there's a version for for work, there's a version for co-workers and just understanding what makes your co-worker light up, what can you do to?

Wendy Rose Williams:

You know, make it, make it go more smoothly, or your direct boss in an authentic way. You know, do they really? Can you see that they really respond so well to the words of affirmation and they need some of that. Or are they like a quality time person and they really want the meetings and the detail? Or is it this 10,000-foot level kind of person? I'm trying to get that figured out too. I think just a little goes a long way, trying to get some grace.

Claude:

So in a past life, energy healer, your spiritual teacher have you had someone coming to you say I have issue, for example at work? Have you had that experience with someone, that they came and what did you do?

Wendy Rose Williams:

Yes, I can think of someone like that, and it's actually a good friend's son. He was newly launched into his career, got a great education, was just ahead of the curve with getting his master's degree completed, and a very personable, just hardworking, very likable, and he got into his first job. Got into his first job and he had a boss who was just a bulldozer, just not respecting him, not kind, not, just not not a great boss. And so he he stuck it out for for a time period Cause again, it was the you know, the first, the first job, and just wanted to learn what he could there and also not be immediately moving into a new job. And he targeted where he really wanted to work his dream job and just a lot of networking, a lot of meditation and just different things that he was doing. He got the dream job after about 18 months or two years at the dream company and he moves into it. Guess what his boss was like.

Jess:

Another bulldozer? No, I was hoping you were going to say the opposite.

Wendy Rose Williams:

No, and now he's like wait a minute. I was so fortunate to get into this dream company that many, many people have heard of and would love to work for, and he gets in there, and so then he started to put the pieces together. What's the common denominator in this? It's me. So what do I need to be doing differently, to be holding my boundaries differently? And he's, as I said, a very, very lovely young man, but he comes across or was at the time coming across very much as a pleaser. What do you need? What do you need? What do you need? What can I do for you? This type of energy and I'm not saying that there's not a role for that in the workforce depending on your role, and don't? We love friends like that too, but there's just got to be a balance to it yeah.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So when he started to just hold the line and started to speak up more and to I do not want to use the word argue, because it's not about arguing, but just much more firmly held convictions, it's being, it's being clear in your boundaries and and recognizing yeah, and recognizing here.

Jess:

Here's my expertise too, and why I chose to do what I did.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Yes, and here's what I can do, and here's what I'm bringing to the table, and here's what this project needs is that confidence. So once he started expressing himself in that way, for just a short couple of months that boss got transferred, took another position and was gone, and he now has a delightful boss, fantastic, who respects him, manager, as a servant, type of mentality of here's how we're really all going to fly as a team. If you've got the manager saying to you what do you need?

Wendy Rose Williams:

and how are we going to get this done and what are any obstacles that you might be seeing, you know, to this project, to this deadline, to this priority?

Jess:

Glad it worked out. Sounds like it was definitely a learning on both ends, right Him learning that he was a common denominator, but then also learning that he has a role in it as well and has the ability to influence the boss just as much as the boss was influencing him.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Yes, and he did a past life regression session with me and what came up immediately was a past life where he was in shackles and he had been captured and enslaved and was on a slave ship. It was very heavy. So, again, it was a young man who just needed to step into his power without using it.

Jess:

His shop was.

Wendy Rose Williams:

And interestingly that was the second soul contract I found with that key, that critical boyfriend who I met via match. The first contract we had, first agreement, was for him to wake me up, spiritually, wonderful, and he did that with Introduction to Journey of Souls and Past Life Regression. The second agreement that we had together soul contract, was for him to break my heart repeatedly until I stood in my power fully, without abusing it.

Jess:

Wait a minute, Wendy. You got to walk me back on that one. What does that mean? I do not want my heart broken repeatedly. Exactly, this seems painful.

Wendy Rose Williams:

We dated. We dated exclusively for over a year and it was an incredible relationship because there was deep history and love together. We found over time, over an eight year period, we found 21 shared lives together, which is a lot of lives that is a lot.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I had some karma and I see karma. I don't. It's not punishment, it's simply unbalanced energy. It's like there's like a pin in it of where you need to, where you need to complete a lesson, get something balanced so you may meet that same person again or have that similar circumstance come up again, to be able to make better choices, different choices, really learn from it, really finish it up. So I had some karma from having been a heartbreaker. So I now fall 1000% in love with a boyfriend who's going to break my heart repeatedly. So I got to be on the other. I got to be on the other side of that and the I also had karma for having abused my power and what.

Wendy Rose Williams:

what that was causing me to do in this lifetime was to play it very, very small very conscious, very conservative, had anxiety until I had my first past life regression and that was a game changer because I released it in a two-hour session. And to not have anxiety after having had it for 50 years, it was like the weight of the world came off my shoulders.

Claude:

Wow.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So, that contract was brilliant because he kept saying to me you need to step to the plate. You've got all these gifts and abilities. You're not sharing them, you're not speaking up, you're not, you're not, you're not living life fully. And what is going on with this? You know why. Why are you doing the shrinking violet thing? And it was just so interesting. So he encouraged me. He actually found the first podcast that I was ever on. Um, he's first client in my first book Regression, healing 1, is his session. Okay, because it was just such an amazing session. So, as I said, we can make these agreements and that's a pretty complex agreement. It was a two for one. I'm still confused.

Jess:

So you determine that in a past life you were a heartbreaker. How do you then leap to making a contract with somebody to now break your heart continuously? And then what does that look like?

Wendy Rose Williams:

Because I wanted to knock it off. I wanted to be able to have healthy, happy romantic relationships. Got it, and it was not having them as a result of having been just self-centered, selfish, just not having been considerate enough of the other person's heart and feelings and what they needed.

Jess:

So it's not enough to just recognize and kind of reflect on it. It is then to then experience it. Is that what you're, okay?

Claude:

And to put yourself in people's shoes that you broke. You know you broke their heart.

Jess:

So to see the feeling and to recognize that and to be careful in the next life right, if you know him and you now made a contract for him to break up with you, how does that happen? Because you know he's going to do it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I didn't know the contract until we were through all the learnings and experiences, because I agree with you Often if you know the contract on the front end, you're not going to, you're going to try and shortcut it or so the contract winds up coming to life after the actions.

Claude:

Yes, so it's not like for me, I understood and again, it was very pragmatic you and him signing up a contract, but it's totally different. It's more, more well, it's true, that's what. I mean I'm a very simple person, you know I mean, but it's more in a more higher being contract, like a soul contract.

Jess:

So you become soulmates with the individual and then you're almost giving them the agreeing you're going to work together, understanding that they're going to help move you in a way and that you'll move them in a way exactly fascinating we both are you?

Wendy Rose Williams:

two still together by the way no, we wrapped up everything that we needed to between the years 2010 and 2018. We wrapped everything everything that we needed to between the years 2010 and 2018. We wrapped everything up and I'm forever grateful for it, but, as you said, it does not make any sense. No one deserves to stay in a relationship where someone is breaking your heart repeatedly. I don't care if it's a romantic relationship, a relationship where you're an adult, and it's a relationship with a parent, a sibling, a child, whoever.

Jess:

Yeah, a best friend from like yeah, same. Yeah, I get it, yeah, sometimes, and it's funny because you kind of like if they're that close to you, you let it go numerous times, right?

Wendy Rose Williams:

right, right. And you know, sometimes we outgrow friends you know, interests can change, you know, we can really really change and we're no longer on the same path. It doesn't mean that we don't care about them and you know, thank them, but sometimes that door needs to be closed. If it's a family member, you know be open in very limited circumstances.

Claude:

With this process you can, like you said, after 50 years of anxiety, so you can actually change your life from learning of all your past. You know what's happening, what happened, and then you want to change it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Yes, that and that is for me so incredible it was a profound change and, with all due respect to talk therapy traditional talk therapy, because I think it can be very useful but the type of change that can happen during these energy healings, these soul level healings and past life regression, it is profound because it's across all the lifetimes. When I went into that very first past life regression I'll be honest and just got to call a spade a spade, and the hypnotherapist she had said to me ahead of time because we, you know, we'd done a phone interview before I had the first session she knew it was my very first session, she knew I was stressed to the max, very type A single mother working way too hard, just very scattered. No spiritual practice had never done anything like this. And she just said to me you're not an ideal candidate, so you just thanks, all right, let's just call a spade a spade and let's just be realistic. So can you look at it, can you truly release your expectations of what's going to happen and just look at it as a really interesting experiment? Because you know, I gave you one side of the coin.

Wendy Rose Williams:

But I'm also like, but I devoured Journey of Souls, I could not stop reading it. It was like I could feel my world shifting and changing and she knew I was in this very interesting romantic relationship that I was trying to sort out too. To go there and to have that session, because we not only visioned two past lives to my surprise, because I didn't know you could do multiple in a session but we also cleaned up some things earlier in this lifetime. She took me back to when I was 12 and there had been some real trauma, and also as a preschooler, and cleaning that up and reframing it, because your past life doesn't have to be your literal, you know previous incarnation. It can be this lifetime, because aren't you a different person today than you were a teenager or a preschooler, or even in your 30s?

Jess:

like 10 years ago yeah, exactly so.

Wendy Rose Williams:

When we clean those things up and then when we went through those two past lives and she helped pull the thread between them, um, and then she, uh, you know, brought me back to full consciousness so I could sit up and drink some water and do a debrief about 15 minutes before my two hours was up and just get, get grounded again. And when she said to me, how do you feel? And I said, oh my gosh, it's like the weight of the world came off me. I don't feel that crushing feeling of perfectionism, I don't feel so hard on myself, so self-conscious, and I looked at her. I said, oh my gosh, I don't feel anxious anymore. And she just had this you know huge smile, as did I, and the big surprise was I actually turned out to be an incredible hypnotherapy.

Jess:

It sounds like you're an incredible candidate for this Is that her tactic to throw you off, to make sure you really were ready.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Well, I think it was a very fair question because you know from what I was describing, it was fair, it was fair.

Jess:

Yeah.

Wendy Rose Williams:

You know she said that and you know when you're plunking down, you know a good amount of money because it's not insurance based and people do have to be just be willing. And when you say to human beings, can you release the outcome, can you let go of your expectations?

Jess:

That's a hard thing to do sometimes I just I like, every time you say it, I go.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Exactly. I plunked down my hard earned money and I took a day off work and I had someone drive me here. I mean, those are little things, but boy, can we make them into like a big deal.

Jess:

Yeah, oh yeah.

Claude:

When you are in this hypnosis state, do you remember all those past lives?

Wendy Rose Williams:

That's a great question what you feel like you have free will. What you feel like you have free will. So you get to decide if you're going to follow the recommendations and listen to the person as they help you relax. If you have this very, very busy left brain and cannot, you know, you're just holding onto the, you know the handles on the couch, like this. That that's, that's your choice. But but your therapist is going to have many different ways and they're figuring out you know what helps you and but again, it's, it's just a free will. It's a free will choice, but most people absolutely can do it and you don't. It's not like you feel like drugged or like you've had too much to drink. It's more like I feel like I could take a nice nap right now. It's more like that feeling.

Wendy Rose Williams:

It feels like when you're you're falling asleep at night or first waking up in the morning, or when you're just wonderfully relaxed, or if you've ever been driving a car and you know, you know the road really well a lot of traffic and all of a sudden you look around and go oh my gosh.

Jess:

How did I get home?

Wendy Rose Williams:

How did I get here? You've been in that state.

Claude:

Everyone goes into it a couple times a day, but you do see your past Like you actually experience your past life you experience it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So what the therapist does is you know, as I said, the various relaxation techniques and then at a certain point they take you to. The way I take people there is I walk them through multiple relaxation exercises, the way I'm figuring out what they respond to and you're figuring out just the person more see, hear, feel, sense, know how does their intuition come to them. So what you're doing is you're using the right side of the brain and that's what we dream with. That's where the visions are and it's almost like you're dreaming. So you're seeing, feeling, sensing, knowing You're experiencing it yourself. You're telling your hypnotherapist what's happening. They're not suggesting or telling you it's the opposite.

Wendy Rose Williams:

They're asking you open ended questions and just helping you with what comes up and helping you clarify what comes up. So what I? What I suggest to people, the prompt I use once we get ready to go there and we go via a boat, I help them get to this nice little boat and they get really, really comfortable in the boat and the boat does all the work for them to take them to the time and place with the most healing and information and uplift for your life today. So it's going to be practical, it's going to help you in your life now, but it's um, it's not like go back to that third time when you were a maid and this is why you don't like house cleaning.

Jess:

I knew it.

Wendy Rose Williams:

That's my problem getting suggestions like that. You've got a recording because your therapist is going to record for you and in the very rare case they don't record it yourself. I was a bit distrustful. Again, it was 2010. And so I had a brand new iPhone. So I was laying on the couch in her office and I just plunked my iPhone there and hit record on it and I knew I had my own recording that no one could change, no one could delete from, and that helped me relax so much, just knowing that that was there. So that was a big part of what helped me. So did I answer your question? Yeah, totally.

Claude:

But do people afterwards kind of apprehensive of their previous life, Like, for example, your friend's son that was in a shack hole and was a slave? How does it impact your life so much? The?

Wendy Rose Williams:

way it impacts your life. It's the opposite. They're not more afraid, they're like oh, that was then and this is now.

Claude:

I am not a slave anymore.

Wendy Rose Williams:

This is not going to happen to me again. I feel so much more free. I feel so much more free. I feel so much more empowered and, yes, you know, we heal and release and we let go of that past life. And also, a life doesn't have one moment in time. There can be many wonderful things that happen, you know, in a day we can balance it up and, you know, find some of those other things too, because the prompt I give people once I help them get oriented to their body.

Wendy Rose Williams:

So we're in the boat, we go through this beautiful crystal cave where they receive more healing from the crystals, and then the boat takes them to that time and place with the most uplift and healing and information for their life today. And then I help them get out of the boat and just look down at their feet. We've done some grounding exercises so they're able to, you know, tune into their feet in this other time, in this other place. So what are you wearing on your feet? Or your feet bear? So they answer that. And then we go up the body what, what are you wearing on your body? And so we get the detail about that. You know what's, what's their hair like you body, what? What are you wearing on your body? And so we get the detail about that. You know what's what's their hair like? You know any, any just details?

Wendy Rose Williams:

And then where, where are they? Are they outdoors, are they indoors? You know, we just start getting them oriented and then we go to their home, and then we have them go to their favorite place. They have a favorite meal. See who else is there sitting at the table with them? Are they dining alone or are there other people at the table with them? Because often they recognize someone and say, oh, my gosh, I'm, I'm in. They're describing the past life, let's say it's the 1800s and they're in a, in a, in a, a farming community, and, and you know, that's, that's their lifetime. But they're like my mother, my gosh, she's my daughter now, and they connect the dots. So, and that's really a big deal, because then people can more understand that relationship Sometimes it's just simple happiness and joy, and other times it's like, oh, I see why it's complicated now.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I have more of an appreciation and a feel for why it's complicated now Because, look at that, my boss now used to be my youngest son. Goodness. They meet you again and they're, they're like unconsciously, they're like this person is like they had so much power over me and I was like the youngest of seven and, and you know, they're like trying to like flex their muscles all the time Very overbearing or very overpowering in a way that doesn't really make sense, and it can be.

Jess:

Would you recommend to somebody, if they figure this out, to go talk to their manager and bring that up? Obviously they don't state hey, you were my kid brother in a previous life.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I have never advised anyone to do that. It's been personal knowledge that's given them such insights. It would be a rare circumstance where you were such good friends with that boss or that coworker, particularly in the boss situation. Because do they share this belief system? How are they going to feel about that?

Jess:

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I feel like if you were to bring that to them, they'd be like what are you talking about?

Wendy Rose Williams:

But you probably could still provide what was the feeling and the emotion and the past element that caused it and whether it you know whether that's with with a spouse or a parent, or a boss or a neighbor, whatever it is. We can call in that individual's higher self to the session. With their guides, they have the choice.

Wendy Rose Williams:

of course, the higher self, the soul, has the choice to say no. It's a free will. We cannot demand or drag them in or require. Usually the higher self, the soul, understands soul level work is going on and they'll usually come in. I'd say about 90% of the time they will. Pretty good odds, it's really high percentage. And if they don't, we just simply talk with their guide and then the guide is just going to look for an opportunity because guess what, this relationship that's not working for you with the boss in this example, it's not working for the boss either. So the guide is going to just be looking for opportunities, knowing because you've changed as a result of your session.

Wendy Rose Williams:

You are more freed up, you are more balanced. People often say, my gosh, I feel so much more at peace, I feel more loving, I feel more accepted, I have less chip on my shoulder, less prickly, like I said, you know, like the easily offended and just like a bundle of nerves, cause that's just a hard person to be around. What is a prime candidate? Prime candidate is anyone that wants to change, anyone that wants life to be better and is a seeker, just wants to understand these types of things, if the person has a daily spiritual practice and has ever meditated or followed like a guided visualization, someone who can visualize and most people can. Athletes oh my gosh, they can visualize to beat the band, because you have to be able to visualize at a high, high level yep, and quickly right.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Think of the plays, think of it, yeah to have your body then be able to do it. So that's what I did with my former boyfriend, um, in that first book, because I I'm actually his therapist. In the book, which was just such a beautiful circle coming complete, because here he introduced me to past life regression. And then I facilitated a session for him because he had extreme physical pain. He'd been a professional athlete, he'd broken his neck, had it surgically repaired, but he still had a lot of pain. So we were working to release that and see where that came from. And we found two past lives where that had come from.

Wendy Rose Williams:

He said he had been like the pain scale zero to 10. He said when we started the session it was about a seven most days. It's like oh my gosh, that is just life limiting, that's awful. Like oh my gosh, that is just life limiting, that's awful. And at the end of the session I said how's your pain now? And he was, you know, just turning his neck and, like you know, moving his back and shoulders. He said it's down to like a three. He says I can function again, I can live with this, I can work with this. And it stayed like that for years.

Claude:

It's so funny how the physical pain can be changed, because when you think about you know surgery and everything, it's a physical right, it's not mental. But I guess everything is connected.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Exactly that body spirit is very connected. You know someone that's going for for treatment or for surgery. If they've got, you know, a positive attitude and I know it's going to work out great.

Wendy Rose Williams:

It's hard to go through surgery or this treatment, but I know it's the best choice for me and I know I'm going to get a great outcome. That person does so differently from the person who's like I'm so scared of this. Things always go wrong. For me, I'm always the complication. It never goes right. So whatever we can do to get our emotions and get our mind in the game is just going to help our body because they're all interwoven.

Claude:

Yeah, we always tend to go back to the same pattern. So I think that one of the good candidates also, as Jess was asking is someone that realized that in their life they go back to always the same pattern, and for them to understand why, like, for example, your friend's son, why am I always going straight on in this situation and how do I break that cycle.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Exactly. That is such a powerful question how to break that to the past. And yes, we keep doing that until we figure it out and break through. You know, it's the person who attracts the emotionally unavailable partner and has like three boyfriends or girlfriends or spouses in a row, like that and it's like why, why, why, why? Well, we've just got to look within and just realize I want something different, I deserve something different. I've got to do my work too and just get very, very clear. And then when you clear that, when you clear that energy, all of a sudden you're not in that old pattern anymore, or the pattern of not being recognized at work.

Claude:

That's so. It's so powerful.

Jess:

But yeah, I think, wendy, if our work and Bestie community are interested in getting started and having your own first session, how would you recommend somebody go about doing that?

Wendy Rose Williams:

Best way to reach me is via my website, which is wendyrosewilliamscom, and on the website you'll find information how to work together privately. On the website you'll find information how to work together privately. You'll also find some fun group sessions that I facilitate for people. That are very affordable it's just $20, and you can come in for a specific theme. Maybe you want to know more about your life purpose. Maybe you want to know more about your past lives, who your spirit guide is, or you want to connect more deeply with the angels and the ascended masters and receive a healing from them. So those events are on there too. You'll also find the links to my three books, and so everything's on that website at wendyrosewilliamscom.

Jess:

Awesome, Claude. I feel like we should do a session, you and I.

Claude:

Totally, and most likely we'll be, like you know, find each other in another life.

Wendy Rose Williams:

I assume we would Multiple and we purposefully chose. We had a lot of instinct, information. We believed we'd been in a very powerful past life together. So we all chose to have a past life regression in the same week and we said we're not going to discuss them at all until we've all each had our sessions.

Wendy Rose Williams:

No one's influencing anyone else, and we did have them with one same hypnotherapist, so it'd be kind of like the same process and technique. But we also didn't tell her because, again, we didn't, so she didn't know that you all knew each other already Okay, we didn't want to influence. We just wanted you know again. Okay, we didn't want to influence, we just wanted you know again release the expectation.

Wendy Rose Williams:

This is a fascinating test here. It was fascinating because all four of us did find and describe the other people and confirm their identities and knew their names and who they were. But we saw like different time periods in the lifetime. A bunch of us did go to a wedding to the same wedding, To the same wedding.

Claude:

Wow.

Wendy Rose Williams:

The same wedding because that had been just a really pivotal moment. We were there in our various roles, but that's literally my next book, and the poor hypnotherapist she didn't know what to do with it. She's like I've never seen anything like this before.

Jess:

Because it was all in the same week, so she definitely would remember like I just heard this wedding story.

Wendy Rose Williams:

Right right, you know she was. I don't know if I should like ask your permission to write an article or if I should like run screaming. She did get a little bit of coaching during one or two of the sessions because she said this is just making me uncomfortable. I don't, I don't get it. I've not seen or heard of this before. As the hypnotherapist, I'm a practical woman. To me, it's how does the person do afterwards? Does their health improve, Is there, are their finances flowing more freely, Do their relationships improve or do they make peace with them? That is equally powerful, because a lot of people come to me because of family estrangement and that can be very, very painful. So you know, there's just these common, common things that come up.

Claude:

Well, thank you so much. Any parting words?

Wendy Rose Williams:

from you Parting words would be just be happy, being yourself, taking that love that we often give to others and kindness and compassion that we often give to others more easily than we give it to ourselves. Find that daily spiritual practice or whatever makes you happy and make sure you're doing that every day, because I think we can get so busy and just so hardworking. We're on such a hamster wheel that we're putting it off all the time and we don't enjoy the moment. So whatever we can do to just be enjoying that moment to the best of our ability, really helps.

Jess:

This is absolutely fascinating. The insights from how we can all apply elements of it and learn from it too are fantastic. I feel like I'm empowered now to put that meditation back on my calendar every day. So I appreciate all the words you've brought to us and all of the examples and words of wisdom. Thank you.

Wendy Rose Williams:

My absolute pleasure and for people who want to meditate but feel like it's overwhelming and I don't have time to sit there and do it for an hour a day. Just do it for five minutes. And I was a super busy single working mother for years and I was putting it off. And finally a couple busy single working mother for years and I was putting it off and finally a couple things changed it and I realized, wait a minute, it's better to do some every day than none at all. You're in the shower, you're falling asleep, you're washing the dishes, it's just you. Can you learn how to move yourself into that state? All it is is getting that left brain to just be quiet and calm down and just get more grounded and centered so you can hear that beautiful whisper of your soul, so you can hear your intuition, you can hear your guides. You know God, the angels, whoever you relate to, whatever your belief system is. That's great.

Claude:

Perfect. Thank you so much, wendy, all right.

Jess:

Don't forget. If you loved this episode, please like and listen to Work Besties, who podcast for other episodes for even more inspiring conversation. So thank you again, wendy. Remember, whether you're swapping snacks in the break room, rescuing each other from endless meetings or just sending that perfectly timed meme, having a work bestie is like having your own personal hype squad.

Claude:

So keep lifting each other, laughing through the chaos and, of course, thriving. Until next time, stay positive, stay productive and don't forget to keep supporting each other.

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